Foreword by Dangerous Globe editor.
What really twists my melons are the bald faced lies trotted out by the same media people now, that 5 or 7 years ago were singing a wholly different tune.
There are NO Nazis in the Ukraine, and the US is NOT involved in this war! Oh Really? This thread originated a while back on Twitter and holds up the mirror to those people.
It is for the public to decide, and they have been given ample opportunity to do just the same as we have done before with This Thread. This one takes it a stage further. It is by @OneQuantumLeap …and it began in December last year.
Please note, this is NOT an opinion piece, what follows are the words and actions of the MSM, US policy makers and US government officials. Dangerous Globe and ‘One Quantum Leap’ are just reporting what has already been reported and is now being claimed as untrue by the same Media Circus and their Pliable Poodles.
Tony Broomfield Ed.DG
An observation by Media Lens and John Pilger on the subject of the Ukraine
This follows a broadcast on the BBC News at Ten dated 22 January 2018 which seemed to be a scare piece warning UK of Russia building “an increasingly modern and aggressive military”. Etc Etc.
There was, of course, no mention of US/NATO encroachment towards Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union (contravening assurances given to Gorbachev27), or the US bases28 and military exercises29 close to Russia’s borders as well as globally, or the long history30 of US threats and major crimes31 around the world. Nor was there any reference to Ukraine, which has routinely been reported as an example of Russian ‘aggression’. John Pilger observes that the BBC, along with others, including CNN, the New York Times and the Guardian: played a critical role in conditioning their viewers to accept a new and dangerous cold war. All have misrepresented events in Ukraine as a malign act by Russia when, in fact, the coup in Ukraine in 2014 was the work of the United States, aided by Germany and NATO.32“
Extract from the book “Propaganda Blitz: How the Corporate Media Distort Reality (English Edition)” by David Edwards, David Cromwell. Reference numbers in the above will be expanded at the end of this piece to show the references used by them.
‘Since 2014, the United States has provided more than $17.9 billion in security assistance for training and equipment to help Ukraine preserve its territorial integrity, secure its borders, and improve interoperability with NATO’
Source: US Gov.
March 3 2023
“The United States, our allies, and our partners worldwide are united in support of Ukraine in response to Russia’s premeditated, unprovoked, and unjustified war against Ukraine. We have not forgotten Russia’s earlier aggression in eastern Ukraine and occupation following its unlawful seizure of Crimea in 2014. The United States reaffirms its unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders, extending to its territorial waters”
Why is US providing assistance for training/ equipment to Ukraine, under the auspices of NATO when Ukraine is not in NATO? Why are they pushing directly and materially towards ‘interoperability with NATO’, from 2014, when Ukraine was not a member of NATO?
This might help
This RAND Corporation Document entitled ‘Extending Russia’, was sponsored (funded) by the Army Quadrennial Defense Review Office, Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff G-8, Headquarters, Department of the Army.
This passage from Page 96 reveals US/ NATO aims.(It states “Possible”aims, ALL of which seem to have been accomplished. Ed.DG)
Angela Merkel revealing that the Minsk Agreement was a stalling tactic to allow the West to militarize Ukraine for an inevitable war. De Facto confirmation Ukraine serving purpose of an anti-Russia proxy, the war a deliberate aim. (The funding programme began in 2014 See first post)
This is the original German article, and this is the English(Google) translation, with Merkel speaking of buying time for Ukraine and maintaining the peace. $17.9 Billion in US aid since 2014 should have bought a lot of peace by 2022, but it seems that much of it was spent on the military training and armament Ed. DG)
Merkel’s comments are serious, they show Western duplicity (in full view of World) at geopolitical level. Implications are significant, not just for Ukraine, but also the West. Merkel also bolsters, whether by accident or design, the Russian domestic support for the invasion. Indeed, Putin commented, “why didn’t they do it sooner”?
Emmanuel Macron explaining that Russia’s security concerns are material, conceding that Russia had long been arguing about its security interests, specifically NATO expansion (but no one was taking it seriously, indeed, the opposite, it was stoking the conflict).
From Macron, we see the War did not come into being out of a political vacuum. Russia repeatedly raised concerns which were ignored by the West. The Western public were none the wiser thanks to the MSM and their orchestrated narrative that Russia’s invasion “Had no acceptable basis, but this is geopolitics; invasion” became inevitable, and the West knew it too.
This posted by Michael McFaul (about comments he made back in 2018), only serve to further confirm US had been arming and training Ukraine for a future proxy war with Russia, all very perfectly fitting the ‘Extending Russia’ agenda (see earlier 2019 Rand Doc). Michael Anthony McFaul is an American academic and diplomat who served as the United States Ambassador to Russia from 2012 to 2014, (Wikipedia) Member of the Council on Foreign Relations
By stating “…the United States and our partners must “maintain and expand” economic sanctions but also increase economic, political, and military assistance” McFaul confirms that by that time,(2018) Ukraine had already been receiving military support (while not a NATO member).
..and from page 164 of the previously mentioned Rand Corporation document…
This is NATO, Russia’s No.1 adversary, arming and training Ukraine (still not a NATO member), following the 2014 US instigated Coup, which caused Russia’s invasion of the Crimea. Crimea already proved that Russia would respond to security threats, but the US pushed on, provoking the proxy war anyway.
Here we see Sen. John McCain, & Sen. Lindsey Graham, in Ukraine in 2016, preparing US/Ukraine for War with Russia.
How much more evidence is needed to show that Ukraine is a US Instigated proxy war?
In Lyndsey Grahams own words, captured on video…
“Your fight is our fight. 2017 will be the year of offense, all of us will go back to Washington” and we will push the case against Russia”
By 2016, Jeremy Corbyn is Leader of UK Labour Party. In 2017, Corbyn’s party came to within 2, 227 votes of winning the UK General Election (Note, A Corbyn-led Government would have put brakes on NATO) — ‘Mike Pompeo Threatens To Intervene In British Democracy To Stop Corbyn Becoming Prime Minister’ 2019
Then this also emerges, which would be remiss of me if I were not to include in the thread. No further commentary or interpretation required.
Then we have this, arguably comparable to NATO expansion, where ‘US confirms threat to invade Solomon Islands over China security agreement’. Unlike the Ukraine, being right on Russia’s doorstep, the Solomon Islands & US Mainland are nearly 12,000 Km apart from each other.
The blatantly illegal ultimatum was personally issued to Solomon Islands Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare by a US delegation led by National Security Council Coordinator for the Indo-Pacific, CFR man, Kurt Campbell, on April 22.
The significance of the Solomon Islands story here lays in how the US and the collective West can argue NATO expansion to Ukraine is not real or, if it is real, how it is not enough reason for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. At the same time the US claims that a security arrangement between China and the Solomon Islands 12,000 Km away, warrants a US military response…
When the US Gov admits to arming and training Ukraine since (at least) 2014, as well as pushing the ‘inter-operability’ between NATO and Ukraine, that constitutes the de facto NATO expansion (by bringing Ukraine into NATO) that is so objectionable to the Russians.
It follows then that if NATO expansion to the Ukraine/Russian border is not a good enough reason for the Russian invasion, then how is it OK for the US to threaten the Solomon Islands over a security agreement with China, where Solomon Isles is almost 12,000km from the US Border posing little threat to US security?
Double standards? Hypocrisy? Or something else altogether?
For a precise exploration of/investigation into the 2014 US instigated Ukraine/ Maiden Coup, the following article is must-read. HIGHLY Recommended.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/
Alternatively
Aleksey Reznikov, Ukraine Minster for Defence, admits the Ukraine is a proxy war fought on behalf of NATO. ‘Aleksey Reznikov has argued that Kiev is shedding blood for the military bloc and expects weapons in return.’
‘Appearing on the 1+1 network’s TSN channel on Thursday evening, Reznikov pointed out that at the Madrid summit last summer, NATO declared Russia “the greatest threat to the US-led bloc”
The post seems to have gone from the Net but Wayback has our back
“Today, Ukraine is addressing that threat. We’re carrying out NATO’s mission today, without shedding their blood. We shed our blood, so we expect them to provide weapons,” he said.’
To Repeat…”We’re carrying out NATO’s mission today, without shedding their blood”. A concrete admission by the Ukranian Defence Minister, this is a proxy war on behalf of NATO and the US.
Do the Ukrainian people get a say in this with their democratic government?
C14/S14 by Wikipedia.
This is Yevhen Karas, of S14 /С14’s recorded in early 2022, just before the invasion…
Ukraine, back in 2014. Things they won’t let you hear or know today.
This is the BBC reporting on Ukrainian Nazis (2014), When asked what future they want for Ukraine they say “a clean nation for one people” and they also say they hate Jews and Russians.
Here is a collage of images referring to C14’s Wiki page. It seems their parent organisation is the Svoboda Party. Here is US Senator John McCain with Svoboda’s Oleh Tyahnybok, immediately before the 2014 coup in Maidan, backed by the US..
This is the actual video of the Defence Minister of Ukraine, Reznikov, comments about the NATO mission Ukraine political establishment were carrying out (with subtitles).
Lots has been said in West about Russian propaganda, but western propaganda barely gets a mention. Time to address that and give a little balance…
Here, a study finds 60-80% of Twitter accounts discussing Russia-Ukraine War were bots & that 90% of those were proWar, pro-Ukraine. It makes it quite clear the extent and nature of Western propaganda while giving an insight into how the narrative is bent to maintain a war that NATO is losing.
Folks only need to look at the Twitter accounts of Paul Massaro or Michael McFaul (or even the POTUS) to understand how this study’s findings hold up to everyday empirical observation, including the mass of NATO and NATOesque bots/ trolls.
Deeper history into US/ CIA, interference and general machinations exploiting Ukraine against the USSR (and Russia since WWII).
The CIA has released thousands of declassified docs describing such operations, there sis little room for doubt that the US has been bolstering Nazis in Ukraine.
For insights on recent US involvement in Ukraine, including the 2014 Coup, below:
‘In 2016 he [Carl Gerhsman] said the NED [National Endowment for Democracy] has been involved in Ukraine since the 1980s and he praised the “overthrow of Yanukovych”
Russia Minister of Foreign Affairs, Sergey Lavrov, explaining Russia’s position on Ukraine, International Law/UN Charter; Ukraine/US/NATO actions in Ukraine, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan – facts & context never reaching Western publics
Recommended, {though a slow delivery due to translation, suggest speeding up replay Ed. DG}
German Foreign Minister, Annalena Baerbock, says : “We are fighting a war against Russia and not against each other”, officially, this a war between Ukraine/ Russia, so when did it officially become a war between Germany/ EU and Russia? (though we know its a US/ NATO proxy war).
And to think the Annalena Baerbock, the German Foreign Minister is a Green Party member, so German Greens are pro-warmongering and pro-NATO. Although this has been kept out of the news, German people are rising.
On Ukraine, another HIGHLY Recommended watch, is a plain, no-nonsense reading of the situation as it stands, by someone who has the knowledge and experience.
On Ukraine, this Irish Times article is spot on, cannot recommend it enough. “Putin’s restraint in the face of massive western military aid to Ukraine has been remarkable but his forbearance may not be boundless”
Remember the Rand Corporations “Six Possible US moves (Earlier shown above)?
Well this is from the same source…
Note the last couple of lines “…It is appropriate to assess how this conflict may evolve, what alternative trajectories might mean for U.S. interests, and what Washington can do to promote a trajectory that best serves U.S. interests”
Here is a suggestion…how about peace as “trajectory” irrespective of US interests?
And this. “We have highlighted several other tools — potentially more potent ones — that Washington can use to steer the war toward a trajectory that better promotes U.S. interests.”
Yet more conformation that Ukraine is all about US interests.
Under Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland’s duplicity over Ukraine is well documented; all part of US state strategy to move Ukraine into this plainly failed, proxy war Nuland’s recorded conversation should be enough to confirm Ukraine a proxy war.
Source 1 ‘Fcuk the EU’: US diplomat Victoria Nuland’s phone call leaked – video’. Quite how the EU can ignore the “Fcuk the EU”, is beyond me. It signalled US intent over the EU – where Nordstream confirmed it (Nuland had plenty to say about that also)
Source 2 ‘Nuland-Pyatt leaked Ukraine 2014 phone conversation, complete with subtitles’.
See also this prescient article by John J. Mearsheimer (September/October 2014), entitled, “Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault: The Liberal Delusions That Provoked Putin” {Specifically, see how it concludes (below screenshot of link provided above)}
Zelensky was voted in on pack of lies. On being elected, he refers back to his promises, “We will continue in the direction of the Minsk [peace] talks & head towards concluding a ceasefire.” Now he admits never intending to implement the Minsk Agreements
It is difficult to track the beginnings of US instigated coups/ regime change programmes in various target countries. But patterns increasingly visible, marking root events/ processes. US now started on Hungary, with lessons for Ukraine and everywhere else.
What we seeing in Hungary comparable with Ukraine & other places, with USAID & National Endowment for Democracy (NED) getting their feet in the door to begin to embed US political aims and, ultimately, to kickstart coups and regime change. Again see this piece from Consortium News (Repeated).
US strategies to enact coups & regime are difficult to track in real time. However, as US ramps up against quite a number of states simultaneously (China, Hungary, Belarus etc), patterns and practices becoming ever more obvious. Indeed, the US is now simply dispensing of the formalities, it would seem.
Recent US federal spending bill ‘includes $772.5 billion for nondefense [..] and $858 billion in defense funding’. Suspect some defence funding will to go to coups/regime change programmes incl. cut-outs like the National Endowment for Democracy (NED)
US Senator Mitt Romney admits (5-3-2023) Ukraine is a proxy war intended to weaken Russia, where no “American blood is being spilt”.
{Thats alright then Mitt, American blood is obviously more valuable than Ukrainian Blood. I didnt know there was another special breed of people like you. Ed DG}.
Compare Romney tweet alongside tweet (Mar 11, 22) by Dan Crenshaw, another US Politician, to confirm this is US political establishment position.
On the Ukraine:- Rep. Florida Governor, Ron DeSantis, explains..”While the US has many vital national interests – securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, […]”
“[…] and checking the economic, cultural and military power of the Chinese communist party – becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them.”
Ron DeSantis is being attacked by the Russophobic establishment for seeking US pull back from Ukraine. But his comments fall short by not admitting War a US provocation. Attacks on Ron DeSantis continue along pro-NATO/ Russophobic lines, pushing more weapons/ war. While DeSantis’s comments reflect general consensus in US that China has to be next.
And the Chinese are getting ready…
US has made into reality one of the very things they feared most, closer ties between Russia/ China.
China’s President Xi now visiting Russia, officially to give support to Russia and promote peace. But with US turning its head to China, there will be more for them to discuss.
ICC arrest warrant for Putin for kidnapping Eastern Ukrainian kids, when they were actually taken to safety after being bombed/ killed by Ukrainian State/ Nazis. Former Ukraine President Poroshenko “Their children will hole up in the basements; this is how we win the war”.(See Vid) ..and Zelensky is following up doing just that.
This, UNICEF article: ‘Attacks on schools quadruple in conflict-hit eastern Ukraine – UNICEF’. The article was written before Russian intervention and talks of “conflict going back to 2014” on Poroshenko’s watch.
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That was a Marathon, and just as I complete it the UK has popped up with this piece of abject stupidity. Russia seems not to be impressed. Hardly surprising.
Not how UK Military are sneering at Russia and “Concerns of Radiation”, when that may not an immediate concern….and note how you find…much deeper in the article….
A 2022 UN Environment Programme (UNEP) report said depleted uranium was an environmental concern in Ukraine. “Depleted uranium and toxic substances in common explosives can cause skin irritation, kidney failure and increase the risks of cancer,” it said. “The chemical toxicity of depleted uranium is considered a more significant issue than the possible impacts of its radioactivity,” it added.
So depleted ranium might not kill you by its radioactivity, but it could creep up on you in 10 years time in the form of Cancer or Kidney Failure.
I am sure Mr Putin will be happy with that.
Snr. Ed.
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